Forever Sim
141h 45mTime to 60 with no Legacy points
133h 59mWith the 15 points below
7h 46mSaved
16Points an account can spend

Times assume you play 4 h a day. Rested experience builds up while you are offline, so the less you play per day, the more Well Rested is worth.

Buy in this order

Each time your account earns a point, buy the next row. Each row shows your time to 60 with every point up to it. Talented moves your first talent point earlier, so that column drops from 10 to 5. Savings under 15 min are within the sim's noise (shown as ~0).

PointBuyFirst talent at To 60, 2 h a dayTo 60, 4 h a dayTo 60, 8 h a day Saved
1 Well Rested 1/5 level 10 125h 26m141h 15m151h 02m 30 min
2 Well Rested 2/5
Stopping at 2 points? Well Rested 1, Thrill 1 is 12 min faster.
level 10 123h 41m140h 39m150h 47m 36 min
3 Well Rested 3/5 level 10 123h 32m140h 05m150h 31m 34 min
4 Well Rested 4/5 level 10 122h 36m139h 33m150h 14m 32 min
5 Well Rested 5/5
Stopping at 5 points? Well Rested 4, Thrill 1 is 24 min faster.
level 10 121h 40m138h 57m149h 58m 36 min
6 Talented 1/5 level 9 120h 59m138h 03m148h 52m 54 min
7 Talented 2/5 level 8 120h 41m137h 40m148h 26m 23 min
8 Talented 3/5 level 7 119h 58m136h 45m147h 21m 55 min
9 Talented 4/5
Stopping at 9 points? Well Rested 5, Talented 3, Thrill 1 is 1 min faster.
level 6 119h 29m136h 05m146h 43m 40 min
10 Talented 5/5 level 5 119h 03m135h 20m146h 10m 44 min
11 Thrill of Adventure 1/5 level 5 118h 50m135h 21m145h 49m ~0
12 Thrill of Adventure 2/5
Stopping at 12 points? Well Rested 5, Talented 4, Thrill 3 is 14 min faster.
level 5 118h 34m135h 01m145h 26m 19 min
13 Thrill of Adventure 3/5 level 5 118h 20m134h 24m145h 02m 37 min
14 Thrill of Adventure 4/5 level 5 117h 59m133h 51m144h 39m 34 min
15 Thrill of Adventure 5/5 level 5 117h 45m133h 59m144h 15m ~0

Point 16: nothing else in the Legacy trees speeds up leveling, so spend it on what you like.

The Legacy trees

Shared by every character on your account. Highlighted: the three that speed up leveling.

Professions

Master Chef 5 ranks · needs 5 spent
Working Overtime 5 ranks
Bartering 2 ranks · needs 5 spent
Dedicated Study 1 rank · needs 10 spent · needs Bartering
Bountiful Harvest 5 ranks
Performance Bonus 3 ranks · needs 5 spent · needs Bountiful Harvest
Coming 1 rank
Coming 1 rank · needs Coming
Luremaster 2 ranks · needs 5 spent

Adventuring

High Alert 2 ranks · needs 5 spent
Well Rested 5 ranks
Talented 5 ranks · needs 5 spent · needs Well Rested
Coming 1 rank
Coming 1 rank · needs Coming
Thrill of Adventure 5 ranks
Field Guide 3 ranks · needs 5 spent
Frequent Flier 1 rank · needs 10 spent · needs Field Guide
Field Medicine 2 ranks · needs 5 spent

PvP and social

For Great Honor 5 ranks · needs 5 spent
Gourmand 3 ranks
Permanence 2 ranks · needs 5 spent · needs Gourmand
Coming 1 rank
Coming 1 rank · needs Coming
The Quick and the Dead 2 ranks
Reagent Economy 1 rank · needs 10 spent · needs The Quick and the Dead
Reinforce 5 ranks
Diplomat 5 ranks · needs 5 spent

Well Rested Your rested experience accumulates 4–20% faster and your rested experience cap is increased by 4–20%.

Talented You gain talent points every level starting at level 9–5 instead of starting at level 10, but you still may not have more than 51 total talent points.

Thrill of Adventure You gain 1–5% of your maximum Health and Mana over 10 sec each time you deliver the killing blow to a non-trivial enemy. Ineffective in dungeons, raids, and battlegrounds.

Earning points

81 points can be earned, but an account can spend only 16.

27Reach 25, 45 and 60 on each class
18Profession skill 150, 225 and 300
6Dungeons and raids
12PvP rank, reputation and Field of Honor
18Other
How this is worked out
  • Each first talent level (10 down to 5) has its own talent plan, simulated level by level. Levels before it are played without talents.
  • Thrill of Adventure takes 1% of max health and mana a rank off the rest after each kill (it heals over 10 s, during the walk to the next mob).
  • Rested experience: Classic rules (5% of a level every 8 h logged out in an inn, up to 150%, double experience from kills). Forever's server may differ; the game files do not say. Well Rested adds 4% a rank to both.
  • Grinding only: quest experience is not doubled by rested, so for a quester rested is worth less than shown.
  • The talent plans are not redone for each Thrill rank; a rank changes rest by seconds, not which talents win.